Commons:Deletion requests/2025/10/21
Deletion requests on 21 October 2025
October 21
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File:Telexitalia.jpg
This teletext page is a fake, it has never been broadcast. Massimo Parterimane (talk) 04:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- There is no evidence it's a fake. It's litterally identical to real teletext Pages of local Italian TV channels. This seems to be the one of Videolina TV from Sardinia Moxmarco (talk) 05:30, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I can assure you that it's a fake. This page—besides never having been broadcast—was created from scratch by a young Wikipedia user using Edit.tf (https://edit.tf), an online teletext editor. I know the author and can assure you that he's no stranger to creating historical fakes and untrue contributions to gain attention and prominence in various communities, including Wikipedia. As I wanted to mention in the other discussion, there is actually the possibility of extracting teletext data from the VBI lines recorded on tapes during over-the-air broadcasts of television stations, using a program called VHS Teletext (https://github.com/ali1234/vhs-teletext), using a PC with a Linux operating system and a video capture card: in this way, as other users have already been doing for some time (thousands of examples here https://www.teletextarchive.com/ on the site maintained by Jason Robertson), for some years I have recovered from the tapes the .ep1 and .t42 files of entire teletext services from the 1980s to the most recent times, and I can send you these files as a certain source that the last Videolina teletext service, dating back to 2005 and not 2006, was completely different in header and layout. Massimo Parterimane (talk) 23:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Massimo Parterimane: image is currently in use in it:w. If fake and not useful it should be removed from the article, perhaps with explanation or discussion on the article talk page. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:06, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- Qual'è la procedura corretta per eliminare quell'immagine fake? Massimo Parterimane (talk) 03:12, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Massimo Parterimane: image is currently in use in it:w. If fake and not useful it should be removed from the article, perhaps with explanation or discussion on the article talk page. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:06, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- I can assure you that it's a fake. This page—besides never having been broadcast—was created from scratch by a young Wikipedia user using Edit.tf (https://edit.tf), an online teletext editor. I know the author and can assure you that he's no stranger to creating historical fakes and untrue contributions to gain attention and prominence in various communities, including Wikipedia. As I wanted to mention in the other discussion, there is actually the possibility of extracting teletext data from the VBI lines recorded on tapes during over-the-air broadcasts of television stations, using a program called VHS Teletext (https://github.com/ali1234/vhs-teletext), using a PC with a Linux operating system and a video capture card: in this way, as other users have already been doing for some time (thousands of examples here https://www.teletextarchive.com/ on the site maintained by Jason Robertson), for some years I have recovered from the tapes the .ep1 and .t42 files of entire teletext services from the 1980s to the most recent times, and I can send you these files as a certain source that the last Videolina teletext service, dating back to 2005 and not 2006, was completely different in header and layout. Massimo Parterimane (talk) 23:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment Perhaps the license and source should be changed if kept. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 21:13, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion -- In use. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:30, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
File:Telexitalia.jpg
In effetti ci sono i motivi per dubitare sulla veridicità di quelle foto:1) Tale foto è mai stata pubblicata su qualsivoglia fonte? 2) Tale immagine è presente in qualche filmato video? 3) Tale pagina di teletext è stata estratta dal VBI di una registrazione video acquisita? 4) Tale pagina di teletext è stata estratta dallo stream digitale di una registrazione video? 5) Di tale pagina di teletext esiste il file .tti della singola pagina o il file .t42 dell'intero servizio di teletext? Massimo Parterimane (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Di nuovo, non ravviso alcuna evidenza che l'immagine sia falsa, a parte le ferree convinzioni di chi ha aperto la procedura. La precedente procedura si era conclusa con il mantenimento Moxmarco (talk) 09:21, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ti faccio un altro esempio di falso che ha fatto quell'utente: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Televideo_della_Sardegna.jpg . Perchè è falso? Semplice, ecco l'originale (archiviato 29 anni fa su Archive.org) dal fu sito internet dell'emittente televisiva locale a cui apparteneva realmente quel servizio di teletext: https://web.archive.org/web/19961125064033/http://www.sardegna1.it/telev.htm da cui l'utente ha creato il falso storico (quel teletext non è mai stato dell'emittente tv locale Videolina, bensì - come si evince dall'immagine archiviata 29 anni fa - da un'altra ovvero Sardegna 1. Quindi, le mie ferree convinzioni sulla non veridicità di questa e di quell'altra immagine postate da quell'utente non sono campate in aria o pretestuose: la fonte c'è ed è inequivocabile. Massimo Parterimane (talk) 14:13, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
