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Short list
Horse-drawn carriages (gallery)
- Blackout 6pm-10pm
- Category:Horse-drawn sedan chairs versus Category:Horse-drawn litters, Category:Mule-borne litters
- File:RouKut.JPG is a bus as well
- File:Savičy. Савічы (1909).jpg to Coupées in art
- File:Adel im Wandel140.jpg to Barouches in art
- File:Niaśviž, Słuckaja. Нясьвіж, Слуцкая (J. Bułhak, 1912-14).jpg remove caleches in art (or not)
- File:Hunting (Page 96) BHL22815405.jpg to Hayracks for horses
Task list
- Add {{Mainw}} to each carriage type from w:TM:Horse-drawn carriages (Did all the 4-wheel ones)
- Add descriptive language for each carriage type
- Move all files out of Category:Calèches and redirect the category back to Barouches or generic carriages cats.
Categories to check
- Category:Five-glass landau fiakers reassign non-5glass images
- Category:Vis-à-vis carriages in art diffuse seating arrangement from carriage type
- Cat:Covered wagons, sort thru 193 files and diffuse them
- Category:Britzka so many non-britzkas
- Cat:Berline carriages needs a subcat "Berline carriages in art"; then diffuse
- Cat:Vis-à-vis carriages needs a subcat "Vis-à-vis carriages in art"; then diffuse
- Distinguish between Category:Chaises and Category:Post chaises
- Category:Sado (carriage) interesting
- cat:Horse-drawn parade floats or cat:Horse-drawn vehicles in parades pull out non-floats
- Category:Combined driving so many images not related to combined driving
- Category:Landaulet carriages broughams or landaulets? check sources
- Category:Diagrams of wagons hodgepodge
- Sleds versus sleighs
- A sled is defined by runners + no body + no superstructure. Think: a flat platform or simple frame on runners. A sleigh is a carriage body mounted on runners. All horse-drawn vehicles/images should be in horse-drawn categs and subcats. Leave the non-horse-drawn stuff for someone else to deal with.
- Category:Sleds
- Category:Horse-drawn sleds
- Category:Sleighs
- Category:Horse-drawn sleighs
- Category:Ceremonial sleighs ? for those pageant items seen in museums ? (Prunkschlitten)
- Prunkschlitten, Russian court sleighs, Flemish pageant sleighs, Swedish royal wedding sleighs, allegorical carnival sleighs, zoomorphic parade sleighs, Ludwig II's night-ride sleighs, anything used in courtly winter processions. See also Category:Carved sleighs (a context-category). Parent cat:Horse-drawn sleighs.
- Parent cats: Sleighs, Horse-drawn sleighs
- Summary desc: {{en|Ceremonial sleighs are decorative horse-drawn sleighs used in courtly or civic winter processions, pageants, and festive celebrations. Typical examples include Prunkschlitten, Russian court sleighs, Flemish and Dutch pageant sleighs, Swedish and Danish royal ceremonial sleighs, and allegorical or zoomorphic parade and carnival sleighs. These sleighs are lightly built, often miniature, designed for display rather than travel. They feature elaborate carving, painting, gilding, or symbolic forms such as animals, mythological creatures, ships, or heraldic motifs. The sleighs were guided by postilion (riders) or the horses led by attendants, with a padded extension at the rear for an attendant to ride along. Many examples survive in museums such as the Kunsthistorisches Museum (Vienna), the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum (Munich), the Livrustkammaren (Stockholm), and the State Historical Museum (Moscow). {{pb}}See also: [[:Category:Carved sleighs]] (material/decoration category), [[:Category:Horse-drawn sleighs]] (broader design-type category) {{pb}}{{Mainw|Sleigh#Ceremonial sleighs}} }}
- Category:Carriage equipment
- Category:Details of carriages
Categories of interest
Files to check for categorization
- File:Calesse.jpg
- File:Rijtuigen Voitures (titel op object), RP-P-OB-201.824.jpg
- File:Chambord Eté2016 exposition de Calèches au château (4).jpg
- File:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Koetsjes voor het vervoer van gasten Hotel des Indes Batavia TMnr 60009077.jpg not a barouche
- File:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Portret van de zoon van de hoofdtandil van de onderneming Ramoenia met zijn bruid voor een koets TMnr 60043495.jpg not a wedding carriage (check araba and gharry types)
- File:Abused horse pulled cart gili meno.jpg needs more precise cats
- Category:Carriages in museums are the papal coaches double-cat'd?
- File:Palacio de Mateus 20.JPG is it a barouche?
- File:Carriage (52648490676).jpg same vehice: is it a barouche?
Other
- Figure out what to do with the strange hierarchy for coaches, stagecoaches
- Split up Category:Vis-à-vis carriages to separate the type of carriage from the seating arrangement
- Option #1: Simply add text to indicate which other carriage types have face-to-face seating arrangements.
- Option #2: New metacat Category:Carriage seating arrangements. Parent cats: carriages by type, vis-a-vis seating. Subcat: Category:Carriages with vis-a-vis seating arrangements. Add text to point readers to each other category.
- User talk:Infrogmation
- User:Grorp/sandbox
Useful stuff
Cat templates
- {{Mainw|X}} → Main English Wikipedia article: X. (Template:Mainw)
- {{On Wikipedia |en= }} (for links to multiple language wikipedias)
- {{See also w |lang1|article1|lang2|article2|...}} → See also the Wikipedia articles... (Template:See also w)
- {{Cat see also|X|Y}} → See also categories:X and Y. (Template:Cat see also)
- {{Category redirect |1=whereto |reason=}} (Template:Category redirect)
- incategory:"Category:categoryname" termtosearchfor
- CategoryTree tool
- Template:CatDispute - banner and link to discussion page
- Commons:Categories for discussion - noticeboard
- Template:Cfd - nominate categories for discussion
Templates for diffusing categories
- Template:MetaCat : Use this tag for Meta categories only, that should only contain other categories that are grouped by a specified criterion.
- Template:Categorise : Use this tag for categories which require long term or permanent diffusion. For main categories requiring temporary control use {{CatDiffuse}}, for metacategories ("by country", "by name" etc.) use {{MetaCat}} or its more specialized variants.
- Template:CatDiffuse : Use this tag temporarily, just for categories which require one-shot diffusion. For main categories requiring permanent control use {{Categorise}}, for metacategories ("by country", "by name" etc.) use {{MetaCat}} or its more specialized variants.
- Category:Category navigational templates for countries
Guidelines & templates
Bibliography
- Berkebile, Donald H. (1978) Carriage Terminology: An Historical Dictionary, Smithsonian Institution Scholarly Press ISBN: 9781935623434. Open Library link
- Libourel, Jean-Louis (2005) (in French) Voitures hippomobiles : vocabulaire typologique et technique, Monum, Éditions du patrimoine ISBN: 2-85822-798-5.
- Smith, D.J.M. (1988) A Dictionary of Horse Drawn Vehicles, J. A. Allen & Co. Ltd. ISBN: 0851314686. Open Library link
- Walrond, Sallie (1979) The Encyclopaedia of Driving, Country Life Books ISBN: 0600331822. Open Library link
Plan to sort horse-drawn vehicle images
Main-type categories
The top-level (level1) category is:
- Horse-drawn vehicles
This level1 may be underneath: Horse transport, Animal-powered vehicles, Horse driving
Level2 are the top 5 main-type categories:
- Horse-drawn carts
- Horse-drawn carriages
- Horse-drawn coaches
- Horse-drawn wagons
- Horse-drawn vans
These top 5 categories must be unambiguous, so they get the "horse-drawn" prefix.
Each of these level2s may sit under the general/generic categories of the same name:
- Carts
- Carriages
- Coaches
- Wagons
- Vans
The Level2 categories may contain files that cannot be specifically identified further. These are holding buckets which may become large while waiting for someone to sift through them to further diffuse each image.
Type categories
Build the specific vehicle types under each main-type category. These categories are for holding files. For example, under "Horse-drawn carriages", have:
- Victoria
- Barouche
- Phaeton
- Landau
- Clarence
- Berlin
- Chariot
- Buggy
- Vis-à-vis
- etc.
- Carriages by type (a diffusing category)
Diffusing categories
These are categories only used as holders for subcategories, and not for holding individual files. These are sorting bins, not storage bins. These are attribute-based groupings which remain available for navigation.
Examples:
- Carriages by type (a diffusing category)
- Open carriages (diffusing)
- Closed carriages (diffusing)
- Two-wheeled carriages (diffusing)
- Four-wheeled carriages (diffusing)
- Carriage types by name (diffusing)
- Regional carriage types (diffusing)
- Coaches by type
- Carts by type
- Wagons by type
- Vans by type
- Horse-drawn vans by country
- other "by country" groups
These should all be tagged as diffusing categories.
Context categories
These categories describe the context in which horse-drawn vehicles appear. They are not part of the type hierarchy. Topic categories may contain files, because they are not diffusing categories. These are not hierarchical; they are intersectional. They describe the context in which a vehicle appears. Examples:
- Horse-drawn vehicles in Germany
- Carriages in art
- Carriages in museums
- Scenes including horse-drawn vehicles
Move files
Move all files OUT of diffusing categories and into the most specific category possible (specific types like "Landau"), or if you cannot identify its type then move it into one of the 5 main-types categories (cart, carriage, coach, wagon, van) or place in the 'scenes' category if incidental to a photographic scene. Use these main-types as dumping grounds for unidentified or not-yet-identified images. These categories should contain files. Everything not-more-precisely identified goes here. Editors can sort through these later.
- Horse-drawn vehicles
- Horse-drawn carts
- Horse-drawn carriages
- Horse-drawn coaches
- Horse-drawn wagons
- Horse-drawn vans
- Scenes including horse-drawn vehicles (a catch-all for images where vehicles are incidental in the photograph and/or have mixed types)
Clean up the diffusing categories
These are currently a mess because people treat them as types rather than diffusing categories (empty of files; they should contain only subcategories). Examples:
- Horse-drawn carriages by country
- Carriages in France
- Carriages in Germany
- Carriages in the United States
- Open carriages
- Victoria
- Barouche
- Phaeton
- Closed carriages (coaches plus a few others)
- Two-wheeled carriages
- Governess cart
- Dogcart
- Four-wheeled carriages
- Barouche
- Landau
Move all files out, by pushing them into specific types or into one of the top 5 main-types (Horse-drawn carts, carriages, coaches, wagons, vans).
Early notes
- Horse-drawn vehicles
- Horse-drawn carriages (pull from 'Carriages', which should become the parent category)
- Carriage types by name
- Barouches, Broughams, Buggies, etc.
- Two-wheeled carriages
- Four-wheeled carriages
- Open carriages
- Closed carriages
- Carriage types by name
- Carriage types by name
- Horse-drawn coaches
- Stagecoaches
- Mail coaches
- Charabancs
- Omnibuses
- Horse-drawn carts
- Two-wheeled carts
- Dog carts
- Costermonger carts
- Governess carts
- Horse-drawn wagons
- Farm wagons
- Freight wagons
- Timber wagons
- Drays
- Platform wagons
- Horse-drawn vans (includes trade vans, delivery vans, postal, furniture, pantechnicons)
- Horse-drawn vans by country
- Military vehicles
- Artillery limbers
- Caissons
- Ammunition wagons
- Field ambulances
- Service and municipal vehicles
- Fire engines
- Water carts
- Street-cleaning wagons
- Police vans
- Agricultural vehicles
- Hay wagons
- Reaping carts
- Manure carts
- Special-purpose vehicles
- Hearses
- Circus wagons
- Showman's vans
- Travelling shops
- Horse-drawn carriages (pull from 'Carriages', which should become the parent category)