File:FotoNicoPerrone.GIF

This file was initially tagged by Arrow303 as no permission (No permission since) Krd 08:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

The permission status of this image seems unclear to me: the original uploader claimed himself as the author of the picture, but at the same time he admitted that the image was posted on an external website (www.nicoperrone.it) where i can't find any free-license notice. As the website is claimed as source, a VRT-permission may be required to check the stated license. --Arrow303 (talk) 09:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

The author of the photo is not me, but another Wikipedia user who uploaded the photo to it.Wikipedia with this license Marco Dambra. He also uploaded the photo to the indicated site. I instead uploaded the photo from it.wiki to Commons. The photo has the author's license for me. How can I help? --Raoli ✉ (talk) 10:01, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Raoli IMO the problem is with the original upload on it.wiki: if the image comes from an external website, as seems from "source" parameter (also if the uploader was the author of the image previously uploaded elsewhere without a free license notice) the permission is required to be found on the external website or must be send to VRT. Unless this, we can't prove that the author of the image on the external website is really the user who uploaded it here. Arrow303 (talk) 10:21, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Arrow303 The image is not from the website, the image was also uploaded to the website. The photo was taken by the user who then also uploaded it to the website. The user was a student of Professor Nico Perrone. "Descrizione = Foto del Prof. Nico Perrone, scattata da me qualche mese fa. |Fonte = www.nicoperrone.it (questa foto l'ho caricata anche sul sito del Professore" In fact, if you translate the original it.wiki history of the file, it is written. No authorization is needed to publish one's own photos. For me there is no doubt, in the source field to clarify it should be written personal work and not the website which by the way is no longer active. This was my mistake when I've uploaded the file from it.wiki to Commons. :-( If you still have doubts you can try to contact the user who uploaded the original file.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Raoli (talk • contribs)

What's strange is that I see no reason (for the original uploader) to claim an external website as source if the photo was really unplublished. Plus, saying "l'ho caricata anche sul sito del Professore" (I also uploaded it to the Professor's website) leads me to think he had already uploaded it to that site. Unfortunately the uploader @-krol-: seems to be inactive :( --Arrow303 (talk) 12:44, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

He probably did a commissioned work for his professor. If it helps to decide in 2012 when I uploaded the photo, it was not present on any site. Anyhow, after my check, I think it happened like this. He took the photo, then in 2007 he uploaded it on both sites (Wikipedia and the professor's site).

In 2007 Nicola Perrone himself made his own entry on Wikipedia and got help from his student Marco Dambra and this is evident from the changes here. To avoid the image being deleted from Wikipedia, for reasons of irrelevance of the person, he added the website in the "source" field of the image to give himself more authority. Now, can you understand better why I'm calm about this file? I'm much less calm about Wikipedia, since no one had noticed that the article had been added on commission (if you translate this discussion you will understand better) and also by the same person of it. Raoli ✉ (talk) 14:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Raoli Ok, if originally the image was not posted elsewhere on the web (i assumed that by reading the source parameter) and if the website has been added just to indicate the relevance of the person (not a very exact practice, at least not in the source field) then can be treated as own work and then  Keep. The fact that no one on itwiki noticed the COI/CSC is actually quite serious but fortunately it is irrelevant here (P.S. Scrivo in inglese per agevolare la comprensione qui su Commons, ma sono italiano anche io :D) Arrow303 (talk) 17:41, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Arrow303 Ok, I agree with you. Let's say that from 2007 to today Nico Perrone has gained relevance. Looking for one thing you discover another. Serendipitá ( Non mi ero proprio accorto che eri italiano, altrimenti avrei semplicemente scritto Enciclopedicitá, comunque da cosa nasce cosa.)  Keep Raoli ✉ (talk) 11:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Kept: per discussion. --Abzeronow (talk) 21:13, 30 April 2025 (UTC)