Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tremulous - Marauder and B-suit doing battle.jpg

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File:Tremulous - Marauder and B-suit doing battle.jpg

Tagged by @Stryn with {{No permission since}}, rejected by @Storkk with reason: Permission for this file is obvious or is not required... am I missing something?

I have to agree with Stryn here, no corresponding source code and installation instructions offered per aclaimed GPLv2+ license license requirements. CC BY-SA 2.5 is also an incompatible copyleft with GPLv2+, and no permission via Commons:OTRS from copyright holders to verify. 2001:2003:54FA:2232:0:0:0:1 18:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't really understand the grounds for deletion here... http://tremulous.net/about/ states that the source is GPL. So given that there does not seem to be any reasonable doubt that tremulous.net is the official domain of the copyright holders, I struggle to find how this needs to be deleted. I would note that I think the compatibility of CC BY-SA and GPL is a red herring - we wouldn't delete a screenshot of Gnu Emacs showing Wikipedia text, would we? Storkk (talk) 21:31, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@Storkk: The CC BY-SA 2.5 license may indeed be a red herring.

Arguably the website didn't publish a statement to license the screenshots with a free license at that source page (not CC BY-SA 2.5 and not GPLv2+), but that's a different concern. As also quoted from the about page, they don't seem to be the only copyright holders because of the ioquake3 engine. Whether that's excluded from GPL license requirements as "output" (GPLv2 section 0, GPLv3 section 2) I don't have better knowledge of.

This License explicitly affirms your unlimited permission to run the unmodified Program. The output from running a covered work is covered by this License only if the output, given its content, constitutes a covered work.

— GNU General Public License, version 3

By the way, the oldest Wayback Machine snapshot from 2007.

Even if tremulous.net was the official domain for distributing Tremulous, we should not presume licensing. Since it's likely tremulous.net operators hold some copyright, the default is "all rights reserved" for the screenshots. There is no agreement to the GPLv2+ license stated for the screenshots: No complete corresponding source code and no installation information is distributed/offered under GPLv2 or conveyed under GPLv3 in the file description, or explicitly on the source page. Not even the game version has been mentioned for any brave person to attempt reproducing the photographs with no instructions. Anyone attempting to reuse or distribute this work would be very cautious of not violating the GPLv2+ license, and to do that they also need to offer the complete corresponding source or seek permission from the copyright holder(s) (who we don't exactly know). There is no practical free reuse for this file for those reasons, unfortunately. (Hoping for someone to create a free screenshot permitted clearly under GPLv2+.)

I posted a similar comment at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Battle for Wesnoth title screen about missing CCS.

The unrelated question about GNU Emacs should be handled on case-by-case basis. I think Template:Free screenshot may have an answer for you: This screenshot either does not contain copyright-eligible parts or visuals of copyrighted software … 2001:2003:54FA:2232:0:0:0:1 23:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC); edited 23:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Deleted: per nomination. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:35, 12 October 2017 (UTC)