Category:Male actors by name by country

We already have, for example, Category:Male actors from Australia, why would we need "by name" subcategories? I thnik these can all be deleted. Mike Peel (talk) 07:38, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

The "by name" subcategories take the individual actor categories (which there can be hundreds of) out of the main category, and make it easier to manage that category. If they were all in the main category, it could be harder to find the subcategories that are not for individual actors. By the way, is there a particular reason you didn't also nominate the companion category, Category:Actresses by name by country? --Auntof6 (talk) 10:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: But those general categories are normally sorted at the top of the category list anyway, so in practice that isn't an issue? I didn't see the companion category, otherwise I'd have included that here as well. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Normally, maybe, but not everyone knows or observes the special sorting for the general categories. Segregating them into a separate category ensures a bit more order. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: It also means an extra click, after looking to see whether it's necessary (i.e., the subcategory exists). Plus it hides the rest of the navigational tree. I still think it's worse to have it than to not. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Category:Legislative assemblies of Canadian provinces and territories

Merge to Category:Legislatures of Canadian provinces and territories following the merge of the linked categories in enwiki, see en:Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_June_22#Category:Legislatures_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories Fayenatic london (talk) 18:54, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Category:Royal Yacht Squadron, Cowes

I believe this category should be moved to Category:Royal Yacht Squadron (no Cowes disambiguation) as there is only one yacht club with this name (the other royal yacht squadrons have a qualifier in their name e.g. Royal Nova Scotia Yacht Squadron). Unfortunately there is already a page at Category:Royal Yacht Squadron which was created recently by an editor which really serves no purpose as it only has two images and seems the editor was unaware of the existence of this category which was created in 2014. I believe the two categories should be merged at Category:Royal Yacht Squadron Elshad (talk) 10:06, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Category:Royal Yacht Squadron already exists, although I think it should be a disambiguation category. Any time there is potential for confusing the name of something, having a dab cat at the base name is the safest way to go. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:17, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Elshad: Any objection to the proposal by Auntof6 (talk · contribs), or can we proceed? Josh (talk) 01:25, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Biodiversity Heritage Library Museum Victoria collection

Should be "Biodiversity Heritage Library Museums Victoria collection as per this discussion. Entering one of its external links on subcategories, you can confirm the BHL used "Museums Victoria collection" YuriNikolai (talk) 00:18, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

• Rename and the OP's main point is valid, but none of these names are self-evidently meaningful. There should be an explanatpry note, with links, and some punctuation in the main title. Is "Biodiversity Heritage Library of the Museums Victoria collection" any better? Is there any relation to the Biodiversity Heritage Library / Category:Biodiversity Heritage Library ? Andy Dingley (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree that the naming convention is not the best, and my proposed fix didn't address that. This is the "Museums Victoria collection" inside the "Biodiversity Heritage Library" database, and i did have to go browsing that website to deduce that, as the "library" could be referring to either institution in the current name. But for addressing that i propose creating a separate discussion, because this is just one out of 52 subcategories following the same naming convention in Category:Files from the Biodiversity Heritage Library. Maybe there we could propose adding a hyphen between the "Biodiversity Heritage Library" and the name of the collection to make things clearer? YuriNikolai (talk) 21:28, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

• How many "Biodiversity Heritage Libraries" are there? I get the impression that there's one here in Australia, and at least one more (the Wikipedia article) in the USA. In that case, we shouldn't use the bare name "Biodiversity Heritage Library" for anything, without disambiguating it. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Andy Dingley the Australian BHL project is a part of the American-founded BHL as per their About page, so no disambiguation needed. The Wikipedia article also mentions that, though its section on the Australian branch is a bit outdated and unsourced (I'll fix that ASAP). YuriNikolai (talk) 00:38, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Category:US tourists in Thailand

• Category:German tourists in Thailand

i suggest these cats be named "tourists from xx in yy". RZuo (talk) 10:07, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Oppose Why? They're grammatically fine as they are. This is English language, not German, not that awful Wiki-pidgin of German idioms and structure translated bizarrely word-by-word into English. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Oppose per Andy SHB2000 (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't see what's German about "tourists from xx in yy." "People from X" is the default for commons for reasons of clarity, not because of any preference from Germans. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:50, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I thought Category:Tourists from Germany in Thailand would be painfully wordy, but upon typing it out here it seems totally fine to me, and as themightyquill pointed out, that is by far the most common way of naming categories like this around here, so I support it. If we must keep the adjective form, we should at least use an actual adjective such as Category:American tourists in Thailand. – BMacZero (🗩) 17:52, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Ritsa-Auadhara National Park

duplicate of Ritsa Relict National Park, this is the same national park Alaexis (talk) 10:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Alaexis: Category:Ritsa-Auadhara National Park and Category:Ritsa Relict National Park to be merged into Category:Ritsa Strict Nature Reserve per enwiki en:Ritsa Strict Nature Reserve. Am I correct?--Estopedist1 (talk) 16:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Estopedist1, I think the correct name is Ritsa Relict National Park as this is how it's named on their official site (), so I would use that category. But it doesn't matter too much, it's more important to have all the images in one category. Alaexis (talk) 20:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Malaya

This category seems to be a duplicate of Federation of Malaya. However, according to Wikipedia, the peninsular part of Malaysia is also called Malaya. Should this category be redirected to the Federation of Malaya or the Peninsular Malaysia? Disambiguation is another option. Soumya-8974 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:14, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

• This content seems to be more about British Malaya, the precursor (until 1948) of the Federation of Malaya. I'd be happy to see the relevant content (i.e. most of it) moved to British Malaya and this page converted to a disambiguation between that and Federation of Malaya. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
• Agreed with the disambiguation; please also include there a link to en:Peninsular Malaysia and en:Malay Peninsula as these lemmata seem to get confused a lot, and all laypeople should be able to easily find out which is the suitable category for their images. --Enyavar (talk) 15:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
• @Ericliu1912: We communicated about this recently: do you have anything to add? --Auntof6 (talk) 09:06, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

  I believe the "Malaya by year" categories could be moved to titles same as their Wikipedia counterparts (e.g. "1957 in British Malaya"), that should be more accurate. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 09:09, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Category:British Rail Mk3 coaches of Virgin Trains West Coast

Duplicate of Category:British Rail Mk3 coaches of Virgin Trains. YTRK (talk) 09:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

• Is it a duplicate or a subset? Virgin operate more lines than just the West Coast. Do they have Mk 3 loco-hauled stock in use elsewhere? Andy Dingley (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
  • w:Virgin CrossCountry and w:Virgin Trains East Coast operated Mk3s in HST sets, so both yes and no depending on what you consider "loco-hauled". That said, as Category:British Rail Mk3 coaches of Virgin CrossCountry is not in Category:British Rail Mk3 coaches of Virgin Trains, and Category:British Rail Class 221s of Virgin Trains West Coast (the only other class that had both Virgin Trains and Virgin CrossCountry categories) doesn't exist, the category is in its current state a duplicate.--YTRK (talk) 13:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Virgin Trains is a complicated set of categories. I think Virgin CrossCountry and Virgin West Coast were originally separate categories as they were separate franchises. After CrossCountry was refranchised to Arriva, 'Virgin Trains' only had the single franchise and so many people thought it was interchangeable with 'Virgin West Coast'. Then along came VIrgin Trains East Coast...

In my mind 'Virgin Trains' should be a parent of the other three. Whatever we do, it needs to be reflected across all the Virgin rolling stock categrories. Geof Sheppard (talk) 16:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

@Mattbuck:

• Hmm. It does seem that you're right. The articles on Wikipedia seems to have gone the same path, and a look on their websites through waybackmachine revealed that Virgin West Coast and Virgin CrossCountry shared the same website under the name Virgin Trains, with their separate names nowhere to be seen. Meanwhile though, when Virgin Trains East Coast started its operations, Virgin West Coast kept the plain Virgin Trains brand to itself, with Virgin Trains East Coast having its own branding and website.

What with the high level of integration between Virgin West Coast and Virgin CrossCountry and the difficulty in distinguishing their rolling stock, an umbrella category would indeed come in handy. Whether it's better to include Virgin Trains East Coast is debatable, and how to treat that umbrella category could be a tricky question.

As for the latter part, I couldn't agree with you more.--YTRK (talk) 10:22, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

@YTRK, Andy Dingley, and Geof Sheppard: Has this been resolved at this point so we can close this? Josh (talk) 01:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

As no one ahd other suggestions I have made the change as discussed - British Rail Mk3 coaches of Virgin Trains now has three subcategories for the three franchises. I think I picked up all the other related categories but someone might want to check. Geof Sheppard (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)