User talk:Bungle
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Tip: Categorizing images
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File:Tjhughes_rooney_advert.jpg
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Rename request of a file you’ve uploaded
Hello Bungle, I usually grant rename requests of uploaders for their files, but your file Preston by-pass modern map.png has several issues:
- There’s a huge licence issue: For the first two file versions you must add {{ODbL OpenStreetMap}} as licence tag. I could add it myself, of course, but I think it would be better done by you.
- For the recent, active file version I do not see, where you’ve got the file. If it’s not from a free source this version must be deleted, and then your renaming request would be needless. If also this version is from a free source, you have to add an appropriate licence for this, too.
- In the last case it would be better to split the most recent version from the others. This could get the filename you requested, cf. COM:OVERWRITE.
For a version deletion or split request I could ask for you. — Speravir – 02:00, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Speravir: Yes, I seem to forgot to update the license! The original versions of the image are now redundant, so you may split the most recent version, plus the license amendments if you wish to a new file by the requested name, if that is the "done" thing to do? Bungle (talk • contribs) 06:26, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- In general there’s the template {{Split}} or, what I prefer, especially when there are more than two versions, Commons:History merging and splitting#Current requests. But: I fear your source isn’t that free as you thought. In Copyright - Map images - National Library of Scotland I read, that amongst others the Ordnance Survey, Seventh Series “… have been digitised under an agreement that restricts the release of images for certain commercial purposes.” You have to contact the library stuff then. But in Wikimedia universe all images must be suitable for commercial uses! So, either you go and ask for permission (read carefully Commons:OTRS) or your latest version has unfortunately to be deleted. Sorry for this. — Speravir – 18:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Can you clarify if uploading the image directly to the en.wikipedia archive, rather than wikimedia, would be more appropriate and conforming with any potential license restrictions? I appreciate the comment you make regarding the 7th series being subject to some exemptions. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:22, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- You think of fair use, I guess. No, I cannot help here. You would have to ask yourself in enwiki, en:Wikipedia:Media copyright questions seems to be the right place. — Speravir – 21:06, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Can you clarify if uploading the image directly to the en.wikipedia archive, rather than wikimedia, would be more appropriate and conforming with any potential license restrictions? I appreciate the comment you make regarding the 7th series being subject to some exemptions. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:22, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- In general there’s the template {{Split}} or, what I prefer, especially when there are more than two versions, Commons:History merging and splitting#Current requests. But: I fear your source isn’t that free as you thought. In Copyright - Map images - National Library of Scotland I read, that amongst others the Ordnance Survey, Seventh Series “… have been digitised under an agreement that restricts the release of images for certain commercial purposes.” You have to contact the library stuff then. But in Wikimedia universe all images must be suitable for commercial uses! So, either you go and ask for permission (read carefully Commons:OTRS) or your latest version has unfortunately to be deleted. Sorry for this. — Speravir – 18:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Sky+HD EPG 1 - main entry screen (3408758843).jpg
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BevinKacon (talk) 12:29, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Granby4Streets
Sorry for the lack of photos but I've been laid rather low for a week of two and not able to walk long distances. I'm going to have a go on a short trip today and I'll get to these this week if that works out. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:50, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Rodhullandemu: Hey, that's not a problem (I appreciate it was a request that is even trickier in these current conditions so did not want to press you on this at all, seeing as you're being so generous in the first place). I have been developing the article a fair bit, as you may or may not have seen; I am now just looking to try and add a photo or two of how it looks in the present day. Cheers. Bungle (talk • contribs) 09:23, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Rodhullandemu: I have now put the article up for a GA nomination. It would be great to be able to include any contemporary photos (the most recent one is of the market, taken by you as it happens!) Keep safe. Bungle (talk • contribs) 12:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- As it happens, I'm planning to go there later today. I think the article could do with some more pics of the regeneration and a "Granby4Streets" mural if there is one. Check in later. Rodhullandemu (talk) 12:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Mission accomplished. No sign of a mural, but I think this is a more community-lead project and it does not seem to have the finance that the Welsh Street have. Ducie Street is still all boarded up and is in the same state as 2012. The best images of refurb that I have found were in Beaconsfield Street: File:Refurbished houses on Beaconsfield Street 1.jpg & File:Refurbished houses on Beaconsfield Street 2.jpg. Jermyn Street and Cairns Street have had some work but still have tinned-up houses. Hope that's useful. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:51, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Rodhullandemu: That's great, thanks for taking the time to do this. I agree, I like those suggested photos as they clearly show the new builds contrasting to the existing architecture. I didn't think there was a mural, but this is based on what I could determine from street view and press images. I'll look at which one(s) work best, cheers. Bungle (talk • contribs) 22:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Mission accomplished. No sign of a mural, but I think this is a more community-lead project and it does not seem to have the finance that the Welsh Street have. Ducie Street is still all boarded up and is in the same state as 2012. The best images of refurb that I have found were in Beaconsfield Street: File:Refurbished houses on Beaconsfield Street 1.jpg & File:Refurbished houses on Beaconsfield Street 2.jpg. Jermyn Street and Cairns Street have had some work but still have tinned-up houses. Hope that's useful. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:51, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- As it happens, I'm planning to go there later today. I think the article could do with some more pics of the regeneration and a "Granby4Streets" mural if there is one. Check in later. Rodhullandemu (talk) 12:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Rodhullandemu: I have now put the article up for a GA nomination. It would be great to be able to include any contemporary photos (the most recent one is of the market, taken by you as it happens!) Keep safe. Bungle (talk • contribs) 12:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Lon Chaney Jr.
Hello Bungle, I wanted to upload this file on ebay of American actor Lon Chaney Jr., but the problem is that I don't know if it is available for uploading on Commons or if it's copyrighted, so can you check for me please? Kensoup (talk) 01:01, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Kensoup: Hi, although the resolution offered by the seller is quite low, it's enough to work out that it has a copyright notice dated, I think, 1945 to Universal Pictures, so that rules out Template:PD-US-no notice. Based on many similar images of that time, it's quite likely it may be public domain under Template:PD-US-not renewed if it wasn't renewed after 28 years. Any renewal after that period should have been "around" 1973 and be listed in the renewal database, available for 1973 here (or a year before/after). It's worth checking anyway which contributes towards due diligence as it shouldn't be "assumed" to be PD (even though publicity film shots didn't usually have renewals, and some didn't even get released with copyright initially). It isn't my speciality though, so I can't say absolutely this to be the case. A good place to get some further clarity may be at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Please tag AI upscaled/enhanced images
Hello. Several of the images you've uploaded appear to be enhanced/upscaled by AI (e.g. File:Lillian Kemble-Cooper - Our Betters.jpg and File:Louise Groody 1928 Hit The Deck.jpg). This is controversial, as in the aim of making an image look 'nicer', it risks distorting what a subject actually looked like, with artifacts and elements not present in the original. It also has the common effect of making pictures of people look like eerie, subhuman caricatures (e.g. this man looks like a rat), because it's literally software trying to guess what a human face should look like. {{AI upscaled}} should be applied to your uploads where appropriate, but even so many people will choose to avoid reusing AI-upscaled images with obvious AI distortions altogether. See some background at Commons:AI-generated media. Cheers, --Animalparty (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Animalparty, thanks and yes, some recent images I had taken from poorer quality newspaper photos I had processed upscaling on to provide some enhancements. In some cases, the effect was more a sharpening, although I wasn't necessarily aware of the "AI upscaled" tag, so will be mindful of that. The portrait you noted "looks like a rat" is largely in part due to a blur effect being pre-processed to try and remove the halftone you can clearly see in the original, rather than exclusive upscaling, although I did try and enhance this a little thereafter.
- I appreciate the topic of "AI generated" media is a controversial one, as is an image which has been "significantly altered" by an AI-powered engine (especially in the modelling industry for instance). I remain mindful about keeping faithful to an original production and have taken a pause the past few months to consider if further such uploads are viable and appropriate. Bungle (talk • contribs) 20:44, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, do you intend to add the {{AI upscaled}} tag to your earlier uploads? I've applied it to some obvious cases today, but it's not always apparent without comparing each photo to the original source. It would be better if you could add these templates yourself, if you're able to make these calls more quickly based on your own knowledge of the images.
- Also bear in mind that if you're using other forms of digital enhancement on historical photos, these should ideally be noted with a {{Retouched}} template. Belbury (talk) 13:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Belbury, yes absolutely, it's on my list to do. Thanks for reminding me, i'll expedite it. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! And apologies for any mistakes I made while categorising. Belbury (talk) 16:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Belbury, I see you have made a start on quite a few and besides the revert I did, I can't argue with the others I have checked so far. I am going to do another round of searching to see if I can find better quality originals of those I have uploaded, without any processed enhancements. I'll also re-review some of the ones I did some time ago and consider if there is much value added (I appreciate that's rather subjective). Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:49, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you have the original files saved, it's always worth uploading both to Commons so that individual users and projects can choose which version to use. The manual of style on the English Wikipedia is to always use original photographs over AI upscales, so for images which are in use there, somebody will get around to uploading the original as a replacement eventually anyway (there's a backlog at en:Category:Articles containing AI-upscaled images). Belbury (talk) 09:36, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Animalparty and Belbury: in relation to this from a few months ago, I found some better quality originals of some earlier uploads, and in 2 cases uploaded a fresh rather than replacing. I then tagged two for deletion here and here. It doesn't seem like there has been any activity at all (in 3 months), so just wanted to check if this is/was the best approach? I'm less familiar with commons protocol than enwiki so forgive me if it isn't quite the right avenue to have gone down. Bungle (talk • contribs) 20:05, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, and yes, that seems like the best way to handle it. It might be okay to just COM:OVERWRITE the upscaled versions with better quality originals if the files aren't in use anywhere, but this could be considered to have gone beyond "minor improvements". Belbury (talk) 08:34, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Animalparty and Belbury: in relation to this from a few months ago, I found some better quality originals of some earlier uploads, and in 2 cases uploaded a fresh rather than replacing. I then tagged two for deletion here and here. It doesn't seem like there has been any activity at all (in 3 months), so just wanted to check if this is/was the best approach? I'm less familiar with commons protocol than enwiki so forgive me if it isn't quite the right avenue to have gone down. Bungle (talk • contribs) 20:05, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- If you have the original files saved, it's always worth uploading both to Commons so that individual users and projects can choose which version to use. The manual of style on the English Wikipedia is to always use original photographs over AI upscales, so for images which are in use there, somebody will get around to uploading the original as a replacement eventually anyway (there's a backlog at en:Category:Articles containing AI-upscaled images). Belbury (talk) 09:36, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Belbury, I see you have made a start on quite a few and besides the revert I did, I can't argue with the others I have checked so far. I am going to do another round of searching to see if I can find better quality originals of those I have uploaded, without any processed enhancements. I'll also re-review some of the ones I did some time ago and consider if there is much value added (I appreciate that's rather subjective). Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:49, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! And apologies for any mistakes I made while categorising. Belbury (talk) 16:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Belbury, yes absolutely, it's on my list to do. Thanks for reminding me, i'll expedite it. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:25, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
