Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Cc-sa-layout
Template:Cc-sa-layout
This template appears to be a botched attempt to recreate {{Cc-by-layout}}. The only difference between the source code of the two templates is that occurrences of "by" are deleted and replaced with "sa", which breaks a lot of {{int:}} calls. In addition, the creator (Special:Contributions/Mehuntu) has created a ton of templates from this botched base template. I think that everything should either be deleted or moved to their userspace and that they should receive a provisional partial block from page creation. Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 08:11, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ok, maybe not a block, but please stay away from the template namespace until your technical skills are more refined
- In addition, transclusion from the template namespace and the other namespaces are the same, except that transclusion from the main namespace requires an empty colon →
{{:NAME}} - And transclusion from all other namespaces →
{{NAMESPACE:NAME}}Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 08:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
Delete: I assumed way too much good faith Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 12:26, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
Delete. Per COM:L, we don't accept any CC-SA license without BY. Creative Commons doesn't even offer one in their main list. Mehuntu appears to be making up the existence of modern, supported, recommended such licenses. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
Comment https://creativecommons.org/licenses/sa/1.0/deed.en JaydenChao (talk) 14:49, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- @JaydenChao: Note that the link you used is to a 1.0 license that is retired and not recommended. A retired and not recommended 2.0 version of that is being promoted by the user at Template:Cc-sa-2.0-jp for Japan based on this deed, but no 3.0, 3.5, or 4.0 version, and none is offered for the US. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ok, doesn't even offer one in their main list here or offer to choose one in their chooser. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:03, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
Speedy keep I have already fixed it otherwise what is yall suggestion for sharealike license without attribution? REAL 💬 ⬆ 16:44, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- "Creative Commons has retired this legal tool and does not recommend that it be applied to works." Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 22:53, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- So? What is your suggestion? REAL 💬 ⬆ 23:27, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- My suggestion? Delete the templates as a waste of time on unused licencing options and keep them deleted unless there are many files specifically compliant with them Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 07:34, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- So instead of apologizing for spreading disinformation and saying "I assumed way too much good faith" when in fact you had none at all you going to continue suggesting to delete valid licenses for no reason? @Jeff G. Are you going to apologize and cross out your false statements above or also double down? REAL 💬 ⬆ 15:06, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @999real: I modified my statements. These templates are a waste of my time. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:36, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Trying to get them deleted instead of fixing them is indeed a waste of everybody time. Your statements still contains false information where does Commons:Licensing says CC-SA without BY is not accepted? (It already had {{Cc-sa-1.0}} before) and no one tried to claim they are "modern, supported, recommended" or create templates for non existent versions. Also no one gave actually any problems with {{Cc-sa-2.0-jp}} or reasons that it shouldn't be used, I will start using it for all my photos if no one gives any reasons. REAL 💬 ⬆ 15:44, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @999real: Where "It already had {{Cc-sa-1.0}} before"? I see no mention of CC-SA on COM:L. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- That template has existed since 2004 (!!) Do you think Commons:Licensing lists every single acceptable license and every other one is not acceptable? REAL 💬 ⬆ 16:38, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @999real: Where "It already had {{Cc-sa-1.0}} before"? I see no mention of CC-SA on COM:L. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Trying to get them deleted instead of fixing them is indeed a waste of everybody time. Your statements still contains false information where does Commons:Licensing says CC-SA without BY is not accepted? (It already had {{Cc-sa-1.0}} before) and no one tried to claim they are "modern, supported, recommended" or create templates for non existent versions. Also no one gave actually any problems with {{Cc-sa-2.0-jp}} or reasons that it shouldn't be used, I will start using it for all my photos if no one gives any reasons. REAL 💬 ⬆ 15:44, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @999real: I modified my statements. These templates are a waste of my time. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:36, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- +1. Any that we keep should incorporate language that indicates that (like GFDL) they are not usable on Commons stand-alone, only as supplemental to acceptable license(s). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:41, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- So instead of apologizing for spreading disinformation and saying "I assumed way too much good faith" when in fact you had none at all you going to continue suggesting to delete valid licenses for no reason? @Jeff G. Are you going to apologize and cross out your false statements above or also double down? REAL 💬 ⬆ 15:06, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- My suggestion? Delete the templates as a waste of time on unused licencing options and keep them deleted unless there are many files specifically compliant with them Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 07:34, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- So? What is your suggestion? REAL 💬 ⬆ 23:27, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- "Creative Commons has retired this legal tool and does not recommend that it be applied to works." Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 22:53, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- Including these templates:
- Cc-sa-1.0
- Cc-sa-1.0-fi
- Cc-sa-1.0-nl
- Cc-sa-1.0/bn
- Cc-sa-1.0/cs
- Cc-sa-1.0/de
- Cc-sa-1.0/doc
- Cc-sa-1.0/en
- Cc-sa-1.0/eo
- Cc-sa-1.0/es
- Cc-sa-1.0/fa
- Cc-sa-1.0/fi
- Cc-sa-1.0/fr
- Cc-sa-1.0/hu
- Cc-sa-1.0/i18n
- Cc-sa-1.0/i18n/en
- Cc-sa-1.0/it
- Cc-sa-1.0/ka
- Cc-sa-1.0/ko
- Cc-sa-1.0/lang
- Cc-sa-1.0/layout
- Cc-sa-1.0/mk
- Cc-sa-1.0/ml
- Cc-sa-1.0/pt
- Cc-sa-1.0/ru
- Cc-sa-1.0/scn
- Cc-sa-1.0/sr
- Cc-sa-1.0/sv
- Cc-sa-1.0/zh-hans
- Cc-sa-1.0/zh-hant
- Cc-sa-2.0-jp
- — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:47, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Where do you see in Commons:Licensing or the Definition of Free Cultural Works that CC-SA licenses without BY are not acceptable? REAL 💬 ⬆ 16:19, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @999real: Note the distinct lack of mention or "ShareAlike" without "Attribution" on both, and specifically on https://freedomdefined.org/Licenses#List_of_licenses where "Attribution-ShareAlike" is mentioned. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:26, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Where do you see that these licenses are unacceptable?? Which of the 4 Freedoms do you think they violate?? REAL 💬 ⬆ 18:19, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. So? Are you going to admit you are wrong and apologize or continue defending your false statements and accusations and support deleting free licenses for 0 reasons? By the way, these licenses are from the page Commons:Creative Commons copyright tags which lists all acceptable CC licenses, @Mehuntu created these templates to fill the licenses from that table that didn't have templates yet REAL 💬 ⬆ 14:18, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Dbenbenn: You added the "sa (ShareAlike)" licenses to Commons:Creative Commons copyright tags in Special:Diff/1177701 17:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC). Do you have an opinion on the above? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:07, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- @999real: Note the distinct lack of mention or "ShareAlike" without "Attribution" on both, and specifically on https://freedomdefined.org/Licenses#List_of_licenses where "Attribution-ShareAlike" is mentioned. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:26, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Where do you see in Commons:Licensing or the Definition of Free Cultural Works that CC-SA licenses without BY are not acceptable? REAL 💬 ⬆ 16:19, 6 April 2026 (UTC)