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Airline destination maps

Hello, please note that we do *not* have an concensus to add airline destination maps to articles. There have been several discussions in recent years with a majority *against* adding them so please refrain from doing so as they are very likely to be removed within weeks. Best regards. 2001:A61:104B:D601:D5B0:CF82:97BD:FE8F 08:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey. Thanks for your message. Could you please provide the source of these discussions? Or a source that it is against WP regulations? Actually they are not destination maps. Because these maps do not show served airports. These maps show the countries served by the airlines. This kind of map exists in the China Southern article since 2018. The benefits of the maps I added are, that the reader can easily see where the carriers fly to. The map extract just fits. The maps don't become outdated quickly because they show countries instead of routes or served airports. Additionally I provided a timestamp for the reader to see that it's up-to-date. Of course the maps have a reference. Btw it's easier to contribute on WikiCommons and WP with a username instead of a changing IP address. Don't you'd like to create an account? Best regards WikiPate (talk) 08:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Pegasus Airlines new destination

Hello ! I’m writing to you as on May 23rd Pegasus Airlines will open its newest flight Istanbul-Algiers (you can watch on Pegasus’s destinations list which I added Algiers with its source in French). Will you add Algeria on the map ? Thanks in advance ! 2A01:E0A:101:A1A0:3999:F876:6C49:DE2 23:17, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message. Yes i gonna do it in one of the upcoming days. If you want, you can do it by yourself with Inkscape. It's a desktop app for Windows, which is for free. WikiPate (talk) 11:12, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Incorrect dots in Maps with countries served by a&o Hostels

What are the dots on that image? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_served_by_A%26O_Hotels_and_Hostels.svg They have nothing to do with a&o Hostels locations. Could you upload a version without them? Strohmi93 (talk) 13:39, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

@Strohmi93 Hi thanks for your message.
The small dots simply mean "small countries or dependencies".

If in one point of time, a&o opens a hostel in Andorra, the dot becomes blue. Without the dot the blue color of Andorra would be difficult to see because the country has a small area.

The underlying map is a standard map from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blank_maps WikiPate (talk) 13:50, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
@WikiPate thanks for clarification. Still it might be confusing for other users as well. Aren't there templates without these indicators for small entities? As none of them is relevant for the content of the map, a different template mght be better. Also, considering the strategy of the company, I don't think they'll ever open a subsidiary in of these smaller countries. Strohmi93 (talk) 14:07, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
Having these dots is a standard procedure of good maps. With the dots the viewer of this map clearly can see that a&o is not present in the small countries and dependencies of Europe. So the viewer does not need to check the table in the Wikipedia article additionally to see that.

The blue color clearly differentiates between a country a&o is present and in which they aren't.

With a mouseover on a desktop browser the name of the country representing the dot is shown.

What I can do is making the dots somewhat smaller than they are now to grab less attention. WikiPate (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

File:EU FTAs.svg

A FTA under the World Trade Organisation means tariff reductions for goods, not just partnership or cooperation. The correct list of free trade agreements on goods and/or services for the EU is available on the WTO website. For example, there is a free trade agreement between Armenia and the EU for services, but not for goods. "Coverage: Services, Type: Economic Integration Agreement". The Eurasian Economic Union (Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia) has a common policy on concluding FTAs and members are not allowed to conclude new FTAs independently according to the Treaty on the Eurasian Economic Union (Article 35). But these countries have other types of agreements with the EU.  RuASG +1  01:10, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

@RuASG
  • "A FTA under the World Trade Organisation means tariff reductions for goods, not just partnership or cooperation." Can you give a source for the statement?
  • On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_trade_agreement it says: "The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT 1994) originally defined free-trade agreements to include only trade in goods. [...] However, in practice, the term is now widely used in politic science, diplomacy and economics to refer to agreements covering not only goods but also services and even investment. Environmental provisions have also become increasingly common in international investment agreements, like FTAs."
  • The map is based on the content of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_trade_agreements_of_the_European_Union, in which every trade agreement is sourced.
  • There is a consensus for the new colors per https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:EU_FTA_2024.svg
  • The map you put in place is outdated. For example there is a trade agreement with Australia under negotiation.
  • An idea is to change the title from "Free Trade Agreements of the European Union" to "Trade Agreements of the European Union". The WTO website you stated and the European Union use the term "trade agreements" instead of "free trade agreements".
WikiPate (talk) 10:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Some use the term "free trade in services" but the WTO only uses the term "Economic Integration Agreement". Here is the list . For example, Kazakhstan has neither free trade in goods nor free trade in services ("Economic Integration Agreement") with the EU, even though the agreement with the EU has long been in force. I think agreements should be categorized based on WTO types: goods only, services only, all of the above, none of the above, but there are also customs unions and unilateral GSP. I think it's necessary to think about the title. I think "Third-country economic relationships of the European Union" will be better. This is because economic interaction differs from political interaction. For example, Russia and Georgia do not have diplomatic relations, but they do have a free trade agreement for goods, completely free of tariffs and quantitative restrictions, with the exception of tobacco and alcohol. In fact, the EU also has relations with Turkmenistan, Belarus, and Russia, but it does not show this in the list. "A Partnership and Cooperation Agreement concluded with Turkmenistan in 1998 is yet to be ratified by all EU Member States. Pending ratification, an Interim Agreement on trade and trade-related matters entered into force on 1 August 2010. Other areas of cooperation remain based on the Trade and Cooperation Agreement signed with the Soviet Union in 1989 and subsequently endorsed by Turkmenistan." The same Trade and Cooperation Agreement concluded by the European Community with the Soviet Union in 1989 remains in force for Belarus. Russia has an updated agreement. The mentioned list of agreements on the EU website does not reflect the complete actual list of agreements in force.  RuASG +1  14:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
In the case of the title "Trade Agreements of the European Union" it obviously includes the Soviet Union, Turkmenistan, Belarus, Russia and other countries. The Agreement between the European Economic Community and the European Atomic Energy Community and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on trade and commercial and economic cooperation is here.  RuASG +1  15:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
@RuASG
In case of continuing to call it "Free trade agreements of the European Union", which countries should be made light grey on https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/91/20250826003404%21EU_FTAs.svg?
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan? WikiPate (talk) 17:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Speaking of Eurasia, from my point of view, China, the five Central Asian countries, Azerbaijan and Armenia should be light gray (like Russia, Belarus and Mongolia). Further study is needed. But Armenia is a very special case, which has no other precedents. If trade in services is to be included, then only Armenia from the previous list should not be light gray. But this could be misleading, as it would suggest that Armenia has a free trade agreement with the EU on trade in goods. But this is not the case. As far as I understand, the EU and China have only concluded an agreement on investments (China–European Union relations). Thus, China is also light gray. Bilateral investment treaties, agreements on the protection and promotion of investments, are another set of agreements that do not always coincide with trade in goods or trade in services.  RuASG +1  18:41, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
In short, from the WTO's perspective, the entire world should be light gray, with the exception of agreements that have entered into force according to the WTO website :
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Armenia*
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Cameroon
Canada
CARIFORUM States
Central America
Chile
Colombia, Ecuador and Peru
Côte d'Ivoire
Eastern and Southern Africa States
Egypt
Faeroe Islands
Georgia
Ghana
Iceland
Israel
Japan
Jordan
Kenya
Korea, Republic of
Lebanon
Mexico
Moldova, Republic of
Montenegro
Morocco
New Zealand
North Macedonia
Norway
Overseas Countries and Territories (OCT)
Pacific States
Palestine
SADC
San Marino
Serbia
Singapore
South Africa
Switzerland - Liechtenstein
Syrian Arab Republic
Tunisia
Türkiye
Ukraine
United Kingdom
Viet Nam
European Economic Area (EEA)
I believe this is the simplest and most useful solution.  RuASG +1  18:50, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
@RuASG doing it that way would eliminate the steps in between like "under negotiation", "signed, but not applied" and "on hold/suspended"? WikiPate (talk) 19:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
From my point of view, this is too complicated and pointless. The WTO also does not show agreements that have not entered into force, at least on a provisionally basis. For example, the Canada-EU Agreement (Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement) is provisionally applied and the WTO shows it in its list . I think it is better without original research, and in this case, the WTO is providing ready criteria and ready to use information. The WTO uses the approach of whether it is in force or not. From the point of view of the WTO list, it does not matter that something has simply been signed but is not being applied. It may be better to have a separate map with the stages of negotiations, including the "concluded but not in force" stage. In addition, I think the article "Free trade agreements of the European Union" should be split into trade in goods / trade in services, investment agreements and political agreements. The United Nations database shows that the EU agreements with Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan are investment agreements, but not any FTAs.  RuASG +1  20:01, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
@RuASG maybe having two maps in the Wikipedia article "Free trade agreements of the European Union"?
one map only for free trade agreements according to the WTO list. and one map for trade agreements in general including economic partnership, economic cooperation, services and investment and including the steps in between? WikiPate (talk) 21:16, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Yes, it sounds interesting. But three maps would be better. The WTO list, the UN list of investment agreements, and all the rest. But the rest aren't FTAs. It could probably be called "EU agreements concluded after"... what year? I don't know. De jure, the agreement with the Soviet Union is still in force as of 2025 with Belarus and Turkmenistan, see EEC-Euratom-Soviet Union Agreement on trade and commercial and economic cooperation. The EU website only shows relatively new agreements on its website in the list mentioned above. Honestly, I don't understand the criteria. Be bold please!  RuASG +1  21:42, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Investment agreements for the EU are listed here (Treaties with Investment Provisions (TIPs) / Investment Related Instruments (IRIs)). The list does not show individual agreements such as Belgium-Russia.  RuASG +1  19:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

File:Countries in which Indigo operates.svg requires updating

Hi WikiPate,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed File:Countries in which Indigo operates.svg is out of date. IndiGo has been flying to Cambodia since November 2025. Could you update it? Thanks again. Patrick Cristiano (talk) 14:06, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

@Patrick Cristiano
Hi, thanks for your message. Yes IndiGo actually flies to Cambodia also according to the stated reference flightconnections.com.
Do you want to update the map by yourself? Just download the free app Inkscape for Windows or Mac. And change the color code of Cambodia into the same blue color as the other countries: 1a2a98ff. Greece, Denmark and China also need to made blue. WikiPate (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2025 (UTC)